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RogerM
RogerM

Its a system lacking in depth, tremendously so on the position player side, but they do have enough interesting pitching that 1) you can see the system jumping up considerably next year if guys develop well, and 2) they should have enough assets to make needed trades this summer, even big trades.

 

I think the guy who is most missing from the list is probably Edwin Escobar, who I can't quite separate in my mind from Mejia enough to create this large a gap. The rotation in SJ has a good chance at being the best in all the minor leagues this year, so they should get a lot of scouting attention.  I won't be terribly surprised to see some one or two of those guys get a promotion up to Richmond later on if they pitch well enough, particularly Blackburn who seems like a fast mover.

 

I guess I also wouldn't separate Brown and Peguero this much. Again there are some real similarities in their profiles. Brown has more range and the more classic CF profile, but otherwise they have a lot of similarities (and Peguero's a plus defender with a plus plus arm as well).

 

I'm quite bullish on Williamson, who I watched quite a bit in SK last year (via MiLB tv, a nice bargain) and was impressed by his swing and his overall athleticism.

 

I also really really like, as a deep sleeper, Travious Relaford, who I'm hoping will get the everday SS assignment in Augusta this year, or if not that an everyday assignment somewhere in Augusta's infield.

LuvdemGints
LuvdemGints

Of the prospects, I like Crick and Blackburn the most.   They're both very young, highly successful in Single A ball,and have potential for a rapid climb.  It'll  be fun to see how  they fare at San Jose.  I'm a bit troubled that Gary Brown is already 24 years old.  By this  age, many promising prospects have had strong years in the upper minors and are already at the major league level.  This year will be a critical year for Brown.  Seems to me that it would also be incumbent for Panik to have a strong year in the upper minors.  Aside from Crick and Blackburn, we haven't  had anyone tearing it up in the minors....and that's a bit disappointing.

TSF
TSF

I've been meaning to ask this for a while, but what's Crick's pitching style like? Who on the current or former staff does he most resemble?

Chris Quick
Chris Quick moderator

 @TSF The Giants have already compared him to Matt Cain. Though, at age 19, while playing in the SAL, Cain walked just 2.3 per nine; Crick walked more than double that at (5.4 per nine) in his age 19 season at the same level. Crick's fastball is supposed to have more life/movement at this stage than Cain's. As a prospect, Cain was a big righty with an excellent fastball and curve. Crick is also a big righty with an excellent fastball and curve.

 

Here's a pretty good video of Crick pitching:

 

http://youtu.be/Q2dJciEceiI

RogerM
RogerM

 @Chris Quick  @TSF Not the greatest video work in the world, but here's a couple quick snippets I shot of Crick. He's big, athletic, looking, strapping pretty classic power pitcher. Good leg drive and extremely fast arm action. Right now he has trouble repeating his landing spot and getting a direct line to the plate on his delivery (something of a specialty for Tidrow which makes me feel pretty good that he'll get it fixed). When I saw him he threw 6 innings and his lowest velocity on his fastball was 94. He got a lot of Ks on a very sharp curve that the A ball guys had no shot at. The changeup was a show me pitch that he didn't trust yet and quite visibly slowed his arm down in delivering. He also showed the makings of a decent slider. Great package all in all.

 

http://youtu.be/_gVh_2Ye7T4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR5XfPJL4CQ

KennyCupp
KennyCupp

If an appropriate description of the second best rated prospect in our entire system is "a chance to be an average player in the big leagues" - wow, this is going to be awesome. We've got something special brewing.

FoothillsRyan
FoothillsRyan

Fun list.  Isn't your "gun" a little low on Blackburn.   I understand he throws low 90's with lots of movement, but lacks projectability - which is whatever.  Throwing low 90's with sink sounds good to me.  Hope you didn't have his velocity confused with Chris Heston's - who is conspicuously absent from the 10-15 slots. 

chelmrtz
chelmrtz moderator

 @FoothillsRyan I plan on doing in-depth scouting reports for basically everyone in San Jose this year. This may or may not require me to purchase my own radar gun (BCB expense account?).

Chris Quick
Chris Quick moderator

 @FoothillsRyan According to BA, he works mostly between 87-89 and that he "tops out at 92."

FoothillsRyan
FoothillsRyan

 @Chris Quick This was John Sickels' evaluation:

 

3) Clayton Blackburn, RHP, Grade B+: I don't understand the reluctance among prospect watchers to give this guy his due. Sure, he's physically mature and not projectable. But he already has good stuff, his command is outstanding, and he dominated Low-A one year out of high school.

 

I'm pretty sure that 'good stuff' translates into 91-93.  If he was 87-89, he wouldn't get as much prospect hype.  He'd be more like Chris Heston who used his 87-89 to carve his way through AA.  Or Eric Surkamp from the left.  Don't forget about him.  If he has a good recovery, he' could be back in the mix. 

FoothillsRyan
FoothillsRyan

 @RogerM  @FoothillsRyan  @Chris Thanks for the follow up.  So he sounds like Sydney Ponson.   Or Rick Reuschel or ....  Which the Giants would gladly insert into the back end of the rotation.  Given these reports on velocity, and the success Heston had against more advanced hitters, these two prospects are probably closer to each other in ranking than they've been appearing  on various lists.  He was probably overlooked in the draft because he did not consistently break 90mph. 

RogerM
RogerM

 @chelmrtz  @FoothillsRyan  @Chris Yep.Having everybody in SJ should get the community lots of looks. Augusta usually only makes one trip a year to my neck of the woods. I do usually get to several Richmond games though. I like when i get to see kids in AA that i caught in the Sally as well. cant wait to seeCrick again this year or next. Marlowe and Bandilla and Hall and Payne too.

chelmrtz
chelmrtz moderator

 @RogerM  @FoothillsRyan  @Chris I said above that I'm going to do in-depth scouting reports this season in San Jose for almost all the players (maybe all, who knows how bored I could get). Crick is high on my list. I aim to set the record straight on everyone.

RogerM
RogerM

@FoothillsRyan @Chris Quick On the other hand, I don't believe Sickels has ever seen Blackburn pitch, certainly not as a pro. Bullpen Banter's Chris Blessing, who has wrote this about Blackburn's velocity: "While it’s been reported that Blackburn throws in the low 90s by a couple of well known armchair prospect writers, the truth is that he touches the low 90s, but spends ninety percent of the time in the upper 80s. I only saw six innings of one start. Still, a few of my most trusted scouting sources confirmed my velocity readings. While this pitch isn’t what some have made it out to be, it’s a groundball inducing drug for hitters."

Chris Quick
Chris Quick moderator

 @FoothillsRyan Heston just missed the list, too; he was ranked 16th. I had him at 14 on my personal list. 

Chatomarkin
Chatomarkin

Thanks for the list, team Chris. I was wondering if there is any projection, at all, for Villalona? I just saw that Haft posted a piece saying he may show up at Spring Training. Are the Gmen excited about his potential, or are we too far removed from the '06 behemoth projected to hit a million homeruns?

chelmrtz
chelmrtz moderator

Baseball America had a little blurb on Villalona's return to the US and he will be in spring training.

Chris Quick
Chris Quick moderator

He's impossible to project. He's been out of pro ball for awhile now. I assume he still has some of the physical tools that got him signed in the first place, but who knows. He's a guy to keep an eye on, even if he makes me a little uncomfortable. 

ariess
ariess

 @Chris Quick He played in the Dominican League last year.

RogerM
RogerM

 @chelmrtz  @ariess  @Chris Quick One thing I remember finding odd last summer about his appearance in the DSL was how often he got hit by pitches. 13 HBP in 193 PA this summer. Almost high enough to wonder about.

chelmrtz
chelmrtz moderator

 @ariess  @Chris Quick It was kind of a drag that he didn't play a lot. He had 33 at-bats and played basically three weeks between the end of October and the end of November, with a few week layoff in between.