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sayhey24man
sayhey24man

Congrats on your new assignment!  Great signing compared to what happened later with Victorino.

KennyCupp
KennyCupp

This deal looks even more fabulous when the Red Sox signed Victorino for 3/$39m.  I don't really like the idea of giving four years here, but ultimately, wins in 2013 w/ our pitching staff will be much more important than wins in 2017 in year four of the contract.  And if Bourn was truly off the table financially, then the step down from Pagan to Victorino was huge enough to make this deal a must.  Especially, as CQ says, since he can play a corner OF spot and let Gary Brown play CF if Brown's earned it in the future.

Foothills Ryan
Foothills Ryan

Enjoyed you work at Nirvana, Julian.  Enjoy this site as well.  Two for the price of one.  Good piece.  All in all, a favorable deal for both parties.

ariess
ariess

Welcome J.L.  I have mixed feelings about the deal.  Pagan seems like a real stand-up guy.  Perhaps his wife can now go on a spending spree. After all he just received the 377 thousand for the WS, and now a 5 million dollar bonus.   Too bad we still do not have someone as good as Melky in left field.   I understand right handed hitting and left handed fielding Cody Ross is available as is  Right handed fielding and left handed hitting Nate Schierholtz.  These two I guess are Platoonish and Nate did burn a few ashes on his way out.  Of course the giants may do a Mark Portugal type move with hitting this time instead of pitching by possibly going after Hairston.  Pagan stays in good shape and barring injury, he should not slow down that much.  He needs his speed to make-up for the bad jumps he gets and routes to the ball he takes.  I can see him eventually moving to right,  Pence in left, and a real centerfielder coming into the fray by 2015.   He will then be the second coming of Randy Winn.

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theJTshaw
theJTshaw

Welcome to BayCityBall @GiantsNirvana, been a reader on twitter so its nice to see you joining the great team on this blog.

 

@Chris This isn't directly pertaining to the post but since Brown was brought up, will you be doing a 2012 prospect recap similar to years past?

Chris Quick
Chris Quick

@theJTshaw  Yep, we'll be doing our annual Top 15 Prospect List. Look for it this coming January.

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Damon
Damon

This is an even greater victory than it would seem at first glance because Pagan's agent probably could have played hardball knowing that a) Pagan is a fan favorite and b) the team is probably going to be swimming in even more revenue soon thanks to the second championship in two years.

 

The Giants get the added bonus of keeping another player who has quickly become a hometown hero and fixture in the lineup as their leadoff guy, something they haven't had since god knows when. It's sortof like what everyone was hoping for, but didn't pan out, with Andres Torres.

ariess
ariess

@Damon At first it did pan out with Andres Torres, and then it didn't.  Even last year on the Mets when Torres was comparatively horrid, his OBP was not that much worse than Pagan's.   Torres these days is always hurt. But the Mets platooned him with Valdespin, and Torres was the right handed hitting part of that platoon.  During his last year with the giants he hit better as a lefty. The trials and tribulations of a switch hitter.  Some players splits vary remarkably from year to year.

TSF
TSF

I'm quite pleased with the deal as well, especially the pay structure. Giving Pagan (and Affeldt) a chunk of the change now with the signing bonus will make that AAV look a lot softer down the road, so it'll be easier to wave both contracts in trade discussions if the need be.

Chris Quick
Chris Quick

I think it's a pretty great deal, actually. In this market Affeldt is making $6M per year and Upton is making $15M per year -- $10M for Pagan, AAV, seems about right. My biggest concern is his health, and I think his defense is a little wonky at times, but in this market paying a CF $10M per year seems .... acceptable. And, down the road, you can always shift Pagan to RF and let Brown play CF, if that indeed becomes a thing that needs to happen.