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The longer Bochy manages, the more I'm convinced that a million monkeys in a room with typewriters, have a better chance at duplicating Shakespeare's Works than Bochy has of being lucky enough to win another World Series, in the next 50 years. His poor decision-making, has cost the Giants at least Half of their losses this year. This is why we have Retirement Homes for Senior Citizens!

ariess
ariess

I don't know how much of Bochy and sabermetrics is true, but nice post.

ogc
ogc

Dusty is such an idiot, Posey is the wrong guy to poke with a sharp stick, he just can't help himself (see 2002 World Series) making dumbass moves without realizing it.

 

I agree that it could be useful to watch Bochy's behavior going forward regarding starter usage, but would also note that the Giants have not really been shy about pushing their starting pitchers beyond the BP's designated magic disaster pitch count of 100 pitches in a game, when they think that the pitcher still has something left in the tank.  Still, Bochy is human, it is not a science when a pitcher will suddenly lose it, it is not like he thought, "you know, even though I'll probably take Cain out after a few more pitches, I really would like to see him hit here."  I would also note that with Huff out and Theriot physically unable, there isn't much of a bench left and Cain is one of the better hitting pitchers on the team (of course, it is all relative in that case and Madison is still awaiting his call to PH).

 

Here is how I see the closer issue.  If Bochy believed that Casilla is the answer, he would have installed him fully in that role.  He did openly say that most of opps will go to Casilla, in any case, but basically he reserved the option to go with his gut as necessary.  Given that he's one of the few managers in baseball history having a great record in 1-run games (based on my research of his managerial career) and known for building bullpens, I will trust that he will handle the bullpen in a mostly optimal fashion.

 

I also saw this as a way to preserve the bullpen hierarchy while anticipating Wilson's return.  If Casilla were the clear closer, he might not like giving up the role when Wilson returns.  It also leaves an opening if some other pitcher(s) step up and become closer like.  Plus, he has had arm issue and is on the wrong side of 30 already.   Hey, with Heath Hembree doing so well in AAA, maybe the Giants want to keep the spot open in case they want to bring him up mid-season.

 

People don't really discuss this but Bochy appears to be a saber-infused manager.  He doesn't like giving up outs, with his dislike for sacrifices, and saber theory is that relievers are not used optimally when closers are only used in the 9th, and Bochy has not been shy about bringing in Wilson in the 8th when there is a real need for his beard.  He does not appear to push stolen bases to put pressure on the other team, only allowing the truly fast (or good) base stealers a green light; saber research finds little value to SB.  Also, research by Diamond Baseball showed the value of having a great bullpen in the mid-2000's, chronicling what they felt was a shift in baseball strategy in winning games, but Bochy had been doing that for a long time as a manager.  He's also close buddies with LaRussa, he of the pitcher batting 8th, so I imagine that they at minimum get into interesting conversations regarding sabermetrics when they meet.

chatomarkin
chatomarkin

Give it up. The .gif obsession is great. In fact, please add at least one a game of Huff awkwardly laughing off one of his on-field blunders.

 

P.S. The Gmen better throw at Dusty today. Is it weird that I've really grown to hate him?

AndyG
AndyG

 @chatomarkin Now...somehow....poking fun at the Huff-man has lost its appeal.....

chatomarkin
chatomarkin

 @AndyG Andy. I had yet to read about Huff's anxiety issues, and I've got to be honest...my timing might have been off. Here's hoping he works his way through his troubles. 

GIFsbedamned
GIFsbedamned

Hey guys, love the blog but your GIF fascination is becoming quite tiresome. I can't even make it through a single post without my computer (and no its not a shitbox Packard Bell or something) freezing up.

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KennyCupp
KennyCupp

My love of Will Clark was cemented when I was forced to watch Todd Benzinger and JR Phillips replace him. My love of Buster Posey was cemented when I was forced to look at Eli Whiteside and Chris Stewart last year. So saith the Lord.

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TSF
TSF

>He looked better as the game progressed, but still, it’s April, he’s an important guy in the rotation, and you’re sending him back out to throw more? It’s a hard sell to make.

 

Especially after news circulated about Cliff Lee's DL stint after he went out for that 10th inning.

 

I was pretty surprised that Bochy pushed Cain out for that 7th inning. Pitch counts are especially relevant when the pitcher is breaking rhythm and pitching a lot at once, as Cain did in the first. Surprise turned to annoyance, and annoyance turned to surprise. I didn't think Otero would get lit up like he was (even against the Reds) but the way Bochy's been acting for the past few days, my instant impression was he knew it was coming.

AndyG
AndyG

 @TSF And almost the same thing today.....Bochy throws Zito back out in the 7th (though he'd been cruising), he gets rocked by the first hitter, then another reliever comes in and the game is blown to smithereens.

s_oblizalo55
s_oblizalo55

I was thinking that Cain was sent back out there because of the situation the team faces Friday without a starter? Maybe he was trying to save the bullpen as much as possible. Especially if they go with Ortero, Mota or Hensley as the fill in? I dunno, your thoughts?

ariess
ariess

Maybe some of Bochy's decision came because of yesterday's double header, and some of it came because

Cain only threw 91 pitches in his last game of 9 shutout innings.  Cain has been a Reds killer, and Latos is among

the most hated players by giants fans, even though Latos is still young. 

KSJ49
KSJ49

You're a jabbering idiot. 

ChrisSherwood
ChrisSherwood

Bochy's always been this way with the starters, giving them just enough rope to hang themselves with as the saying goes. He's greedy with them, and though it pays off sometimes, with a bullpen this capable it seems like he really tempts fate more than necessary. You're right, though; it's only going to get worse with Wilson gone.

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Otis Anderson
Otis Anderson

I still don't understand how Posey was able to drive that pitch.

Chris Quick
Chris Quick

 @Otis Anderson Divine intervention. That's my guess.

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Scout6
Scout6

"Sergio Romo pitches in the 8th inning because he always pitches in the 8th inning. Javier Lopez pitches to left-handed batters because he always pitches to left-handed batters."

 

Too bad that hasn't been the case for a while. Lopez has been pitching to both handed hitters lately where Romo gets one batter that is RHH.