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bob
bob

crawford doesn't need ss advice he needs to learn how to hit. Belt is a big leaguer, no more old veterans (vizquel/ross etc...) keep pablo at 3rd and spot start posey at 1st.

Harry Peterson
Harry Peterson

I am no g.m. catch pablo one to two times a week, send Belt down to play everyday, sign Ludwich or Ross, sign Vizquel and have him play third when Pablo catches , keep Posey in the line-up , he 'll play first when not catching. Pill backs up Huff at first.

Harry Peterson
Harry Peterson

Please tell me why we can"t afford Vizquel to come in and tutor Crawford???

Harry Peterson
Harry Peterson

Can"t blame him for wanting Wilson money. Hell for my money he"s our best pitcher

@Electricbassguy
@Electricbassguy

I don't want us trading away Cain or Lincecum... remember when we were discussing dealing a young(er) Timmy for Alex Rios?

Derek
Derek

If it's not possible/a smart baseball move to keep Cain or Lincecum, why not trade one of them to the Marlins for Hanley Ramirez and go after Roy Oswalt? We get the best SS in the league and we don't lose too much in pitching with Oswalt.

LAPete
LAPete

Sounds ok in theory, but Hanley Ramirez was awful last year and has an attitude problem. Might be a sign of things to come especially if he gets frustrated at this ballpark. If you have to trade Matty, get a boatload of prospects and replenish the farm. If you went down this route, bite the bullet and eat the Zito contract. Use Matty's money to sign possibly 2 of the 3 between Oswalt/Saunders/Edwin Jackson. Likely scenario, go after the extension and if it doesn't happen, see how the first half of the year plays out. If the Giants aren't in contention, then you make the move.

Jim Murphy
Jim Murphy

As a Giant fan and a former minor league pitcher if I were Linecum and Cain I wouldn't want the frustration of returning to a team which can't provide run support. I would be looking for a way to get out of San Francisco. The Giants couldn't score runs last year even with Beltrain and I don't see any indications that they will be able to score runs in 2012.

Adam C
Adam C

It's pretty obvious the Giants are banking on all of the following happening in 2012: 1) Panda hits like Panda (likely) 2) Posey returns fully healthy and hits liek he did in 2010 (fairly likely) 3) Brandon Belt hits like I think he can (50-50 right now) 4) Melky Cabrera hits like he did in 2011 (not likely) 5) Huff hits like he did in 2010 (Hell no) 6) Freddy Sanchez returns and plays healthy all season (Hmmm....) 7) Nate Schierholtz hits like he did in 2011 (maybe....) That's a lot of ifs there. :-(

TSF
TSF

50-50? You mean hit 50 home runs, and steal 50 bases? If Belt can do that, God help the Diamondbacks and Rockies. Although I'm hoping God won't, and that he'll just sit back and enjoy watching Belt mash.

bradley emden
bradley emden

What is this that pitchers do not get better as they get older? Some do, Some don't. Vogelsong got better, Zito got worse. Gooden got worse as his drug addled career moved forward, Nolan Ryan got better. Randy Johnson and Cliff Lee got better at around age 29 or so. How old is Jonathan Sanchez of the Royals? With a low scoring team, you can consistently see the frustration wear on the faces of Lincecum and Cain. Of course I would like to see the big three, Lincecum, Cain, and Bumgarner stay for a long time, but Pujols has set the example. The Stan Musial of our tilme walked. Also we have to take into account that some of these guys have wives and girlfriends and they have a say too. Looks like Pujol's wife was not a woman to disrespect. The giants negotiating brass already gave Cain a difficult time in the past because of some bonechips in his elbow. You are not putting all your aces into Cain and LIncecum if you are not providing them with a viable offense. I am not being cheap either, but I will support a fan moratorium on purchasing Giants licensed goods. Heck if billionaires can hold the line, so can I.

TyB
TyB

Zito never really put up great numbers.... Not compared to Cain or Timmy... so if zito got that much money I don't even want to think about how much these two will get

Liem
Liem

Thank you for pointing the real problem is not that the Giants are cheap, but that they are financially hamstrung by two terrible past signings (Rowand and Zito). Maybe by reminding Giants fans about the damage those two signings are still having on this organization, those fans will stop complaining about how the Giants don't sign any "big free-agent bats." Of course, I would have been completely in favoring of offering the ridiculously team friendly contract Beltran signed for.

nvsfg
nvsfg

" The annoying thing is not that the Giants have locked the cash register, but the terrible timing of it." Absolutley right on the money Otis. I also agree that the the Giants would have had their best chance to recapture the NL West this year. The Dodgers will likely stumble, the Rox are still a ways off, and the D'Backs made some good acquisitions. The G's pitching is still some of the best in baseball. It dissapoints me that for the Giants to do well in 2012, "hope" has been their biggest offseason pickup.

Chris Quick
Chris Quick

First, I really like this post. It's reasonable, spot-on, and I'm in total agreement with everything you've said. Second, I'm so with you on locking up the pitching. I don't want to give any pitcher, ever, a 5+ year deal, and the thought of the Giants handing out two, hugely expensive deals, to Cain and Lincecum scares me. I love both like any good Giants fan would, but it's too risky for me. I think both will test the market (Lincecum already seems poised to do so anyways). And if I'm Matt Cain's agent, I'm salivating at the chance to get him out there and have teams bid.

rog61
rog61

It's a scary big risk, but I think there's also a pretty large scary risk that once Cain and Lincecum are gone that 2014 will be the start of a series of very bad losing years. There's likely no more impact talent coming up in the system and the Sabeans FO track record of acquiring talent off the FA market has been spotty to say he least.