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Shopping list (and predictions) for next year’s team

The Giants will enter 2012 with something to prove after failing to make the playoffs this season. Getting Buster Posey back — and hopefully healthy — will be a welcome sight, but the ugly truth is this: the team is going to need more than just Posey to be successful in 2012. For large portions of the season, the team looked helpless on offense. Night after night, and game after game was spent on aging players that could never get anything going. In addition, the team will have to face serious raises to pitchers like Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain, and still try to balance adding offense with finding a solution to the shortstop problem.

Here’s a list of things the Giants should be looking to improve over the offseason. If you feel that I’ve missed something important, feel free to speak up in the comments section.

1. Finding a not-crappy shortstop

In 2011, the Giants leaders by defensive innings played at shortstop are as follows: Brandon Crawford (507.1), Miguel Tejada (334.1), Orlando Cabrera (294.1), Mike Fontenot (284), and Manny Burris (48). That’s an ugly assortment for any team. It’s the same thing as opening a Whitman Sampler and finding it filled with toe nails, black liquorice, and used band-aids. Gross, black liquorice, who eats that stuff?

Both Tejada and Cabrera are gone, and even if they weren’t, their shortstop playing days are clearly in the past. Brandon Crawford was dazzling with the leather, but not so much the bat (66 OPS+). Mike Fontenot is a serviceable shortstop in theory, but it’s hard to imagine him playing the position on a full-time basis for any amount of time.

The big free agent name is Jose Reyes, and while it would be great to have him on the team, his cost will be high. With the Giants changing things at the top with Nuekom’s departure, the team’s spending habits seem to lean towards the cheap side right now. Make no mistake, Reyes is a dynamic, and talented player. Adding him would do wonders as it would instantly improve the team by leaps and bounds. However, I just can’t see the Giants making a strong push for Reyes.

Jimmy Rollins is another name that will be linked to the Giants — Bay Area Ties, among other things — and it’s possible that the Giants might find Rollins more attractive due to price (ie: less than Reyes). Rollins might not have the upside that Reyes has, but he’s been a very good player for a long time. When measuring by fWAR, he’s been worth around three wins per season from 2009-2011. He’ll start 2012 at the baseball age of 33-years-old. A recent post from Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated online states that:

Rollins isn’t tipping his hand about possible landing spots. But he’s clear on two things: One is that he is looking forward to his free agency, and the other is that he seeks a five-year deal.

“Five would be great. Five would be the number,” Rollins said. “I don’t think I want six or seven. You start thinking about 39 (years old). Do I want to play at 39?”

It’s difficult to predict how the free agent market will develop this coming offseason. For the past couple of years, the market has been depressed somewhat. Will Rollins be able to find a five year deal? Hard to say. But in terms of what the Giants are looking for — and what they’ve got in the system — the team really needs shortstop help even if five years feels a little steep.

My prediction is this: the Giants won’t sign either Reyes or Rollins. They might talk with Rollins, but I can’t see the team signing him. For the Giants, I think we’ll see someone like Alex Gonzalez on a one year deal. Or, possibly Rafael Furcal. Furcal is somewhat interesting, but he’s dangerous for a couple of reasons. 1) He’s hit quite well since joining the Cardinals, but if Miguel Tejada taught us anything this past year, it’s that selective endpoints are generally a bad idea (Miggy hit so well for the Padres down the stretch!), and 2) he comes with injury baggage. Furcal would need a health caddy, Crawford most likley, and that might make him unattractive to the Giants.

Final Prediction: Alex Gonzalez, one year, $4M. Also, did you know that his nickname is “Sea Bass”? It’s true.

2. Coco Crisp

The Giants have totally convinced themselves that they need this guy. I mean, what are the odds that on my shopping list I have “Coco Crisp” written down, and here he is! Totally a free agent and totally in our price range. Quick, note to self: create ‘fro hats to sell to fans. Yes. This will work out great.

Final prediction: Coco Crisp, one year, $6M.

3. More value-priced OFFENSE

For the longest time I’ve been saying that the Giants will pick up one of these guys: Josh Willingham, Michael Cuddyer, or David DeJesus.

Willingham has always been a pretty good hitter (nearly +20% better than average by wRC+ over his career), but he fields like a Pat Burrell that’s had acid thrown in his eyes. That is to say, he’s bad on defense. Over his career in LF, plus/minus has him at -18 runs. UZR/150 has him at -4.8 runs in LF and the Fan Scouting Report has constantly given him low marks. If he becomes a Giant, it would push Belt into RF (if the team keeps Belt around) and that’s a pretty bad outfield alignment for a flyball-first pitching staff.

David DeJesus would be an interesting addition. He had a really down year in Oakland, but he’s been good (in a Randy Winn sort of way) at times over his career. There might be a chance that he can play a little CF and while he doesn’t do anything outstandingly well, he’s nearly average at everything. That adds up to a pretty nice player and you would expect that he could provide you with 2 WAR most seasons. The Giants had interest in him during 2010.

Michael Cuddyer might be the most “Giants” player out of this bunch. He’s older, he’s had success in his career (cagey vet), and he’s pretty bad on defense. He doesn’t have the bat that Willingham does (11% better than the league average hitter over his career by wRC+) but he’s “played” multiple positions over his career — none of them really well. Here is Cuddyer’s UZR/150 scores, with an innings played total, for the various positions he’s played over his career: OF (-6.2 runs, 5,705 innings), 1B (-6 runs, 1,652 innings), 3B (-9 runs, 1,373 innings), and 2B (-8.2 runs, 532.1 innings). So yeah, he’s versatile. Which the Giants go crazy for.

Final Prediction: Michael Cuddyer, three years, $32M. They might even try him at 2B some which would be good for laughs.

I also think the Giants will shuffle their bullpen around slightly, but it’s way too early in the offseason for me to start writing bullpen posts. I’ll save those posts for the colder days of December and January. Oh, and we’ll probably need another back-up catcher for Posey.

What’s your final prediction(s) for the 2012 Giants and the additions they might make this offseason? Let’s hear ‘em.

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Agree: Crisp in center (significant offensive upgrade and excellent fielding ability); Gonzales for shortstop (need veteran presence; one year; assuming no Reyes. All others are worse than present options (Schierholtz should be starting in right or left). Rollins for five years (or even four years)? NO WAY; Crawford is developing. Crawford should be able to play second by playing there during winter ball and spring training (in addition to SS). IF the Giants can get Reyes (instead of Gonzales), they should (assuming his contract takes into account his injury risk); perfect for the Giants' park and the team's needs for speed, a shortstop, hitting and run production (I am not expecting this, however). Belt should be the fourth outfielder and substitute 1st baseman (and starting 1st baseman if Huff is like 2011; much more upside). The Giants should sign Beltran if they can get him on a one or two year deal (not three or more years). If not, Belt is a starter in left.

Silly trade proposals are silly. The real world indicates Sabean will stick to the FA route. And it's either Beltran or Rollins. Beltran solidifies the lineup, giving it great depth, Rollins would solidify the infield and the leadoff position. Either way, CF would be resolved through spring audition that may include Torres, Christian, Ross, Reggie Willits? and Francisco Peguero -->placeholders for Brown. Cheers

Silly trade proposals are silly. Some of these are more in the make your head explode category, though.

Sorry, not to be a snob, but you all need to set your sights HIGHER. @ ian thomas, you can't just break the Luxury Tax threshold, though I like the sentiment of not 'settling.' The FA market is weak, so stop shopping it. It's like going to Safeway and just buying groceries off the end-caps. Look for good trades then, shop the whole friggin' store. No way do I see Fielder or Pujols. It blocks too many players. Not just now, but also a guy like Ricky Oropesa. And what if Posey needs to move away from backstop duties? My wish list: -------------------- SS Erick Aybar: trade Wilson CF Andrew McCutchen: trade J. Sanchez, Ramon Ramirez, Max Ramirez and some prospects... like Ehire Adrianza, Chris Dominguez, and a CF replacement (Christian, Graham, or Torres) C sign Ramon Hernandez as a 2nd catcher LHP Wandy Rodriguez: swap Zito and send a boatload of cash to balance the deal Bring Heath Hembree up to close. Sign back the rest of the bullpen. Total payroll = $139M max. Lineup: --------------------- CF McCutchen 2B F. Sanchez 3B Sandoval C Posey LF Huff 1B Belt/Pill platoon SS Aybar RF Schierholtz Rotation: ------------- Lincecum Cain Bumgarner Vogelsong Rodriguez Bench: ------------- OF Francisco Peguero UT Brad Eldred IF Edgar Gonzalez 1B/other Huff/Belt/Pill C Ramon Hernandez You got flexibility for when Brown and Panik come up. And I think in 3 years McCutchen will be like Matt Kemp is now. What's that getcha? 2 rings in five years.

Am I the only one who thinks it's time to end the Freddy Sanchez experiment? I like the guy, but right now I would rather see Keppinger in there everyday. Fred just can't stay healthy.

Keppinger every day? No thank you.

Too late. He is already under contract for 2012.

I guess I'm the only one that thinks Torres will be let go? Some team may cough up 2 years for Cody. Won't be the Giants though. I like to think that they'll nab Beltran and Rollins since this is the last year for Sabean and Bochy. If the front office wants to stay cheap, we know all those big arms can't stay forever. A big push could keep the Giants competitive with the DBacks thru 2014. After that, who knows. They might totally disregard/forget about the CF position and go with some waiver wire has-been. Or maybe Brandon Belt will play CF in the Dominican to get ready for it (ha!). If I were GM I'd try to trade a bullpen figure for a bat if I could, but that wasn't the question posed.

No, I think everybody is worried Torres is done with the Giants. It seems like a foregone conclusion they will non-tender and try to resign on the cheap. Beware Ned Coletti. Don't think Cody gets 2 years, but again, beware Ned Coletti. Beltran and Rollins are the easy path to an average offense or better, all you have to do is raise the budget to 150MM and outbid the Phils for Rollins. Apparently Scutaro is 95% likely to get that option picked up by the Red Sox. I think trading Ramirez for him would be a great move as a 1 year stopgap. Romo is the biggest bullpen trade chip.

listen up Giants Fans the one thing no one has mentioned is the fact Sabean and Bochy's contracts are up at the end of 2012 so what I believe Sabean Needs to do and hopefully will is SPEND $$$ So heres what next year and hopefully the next 5-7 years will look like: Trade Torres and Pill and Jonathan Sanchez to Baltimore for Adam Jones and Nolan Reimold Resign Beltran Sign Jimmy Rollins Trade Zito and Crawford and Gary Brown to Milwaukee for Braun trade Freddy Sanchez and Aubrey Huff and Surkamp to Texas fo Ian Kinsler sign Prince Fielder 3rd base is set with Sandoval catcher is set with Buster Posey so: Rollins-ss Jones-cf Kinsler-2nd Fielder-1st Braun or Sandoval-LF or 3rd Beltran-RF Reimold(if we cant get Braun)-LF Posey-Cacher WE have to compliment our pitching staff or we will lose Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner so why not sign Lewis(FA from Texas) and keep Vogelsong Keep romo and wilson and resign affeldt and sign Heath Bell(that way if wilon goes down again we could just slip Bell into closer roll)

Dude...this isn't MLB 2k11 manager mode....believe it or not the other GMs in the league are real people and aren't going to easily trade away Ryan Braun & Ian Kinsler....plus with Neukom out, the Giants ownership is shying away from spending extra money...so as much as I wish I could agree with your ideas and hope for them this offseason, they're just so unrealistic it's ludicrous

It's too bad because I'm hearing Texas is really interested in Huff, and Milwaukee can't wait to get their hands on Zito.

Whoa. Dude. I was with you for your first sentence then I completely lost you.

It's very important to say nice things about the pitching staff, I agree.

The Brewers would only trade Braun for Zito if they could work out an extension for Zito beforehand. It could work.

What the heck are you smoking!! There's no way all of that is going down. Torres is gone other than a possible back up. I think Pill could be the answer at first especially if Huff doesn't improve. I would try to resign Beltran, find a shortstop Furcal, Gonzalez and try to get Cuddyer. Those are realistic changes.

Living in a video game world, none of those trades would ever happen, ever.

yeahhhhhh OK, come back down to earth and realize this is the real world buddy

All good comments. The average play of the Giants this year , I think, comes from the length of the 2010 playing year, through the series. The time before spring training wasn't long enough for the older players. It showed by the lack of aggressive hitting. Maybe some of their press notices got in the way. The fact that the batting was so bad might indicate that a new batting coach would help. Make sure that every player over 32 takes his Geritol.

Giants fans are waiting around for the other shoe to drop. Will Sabean revert completely to his old ways and saturate the middle market of established veteran mediocrity with 2, 3 and even 4 year offers? He has laid the foundation for that with his statements about CF and those damn rookies not being ready for the show. Several comments here and elsewhere about patience. We didn't see that last year with the knee jerk signing of Tejada, and with the only CF/leadoff guy being Coco Crisp, odds are we won't see it this year. As a 1 year deal its not terrible, but when has Sabean ever done that? Crisp is a lock to miss 1/3 of the season, if not more. Like Tejada last year, what is the back up plan to Crisp sucking or being hurt? The same thing goes for Furcal. If St. Louis doesn't lock him up, Furcal will be high up on the wish list. It won't be a 1 year prove it contract either. He will be a sweet combination of Renteria, Tejada and Cabrera. In other words, Giants fans will love him. All 50 games he plays on those old legs, which have lost 2 steps or more. Scutaro either as a non-tender or even trading Ramon Ramirez back to the red sox is at least a cheap competent stopgap. Alex Gonzalez has a sub 300 obp for his career, but can handle the position and sneak in 15 HRs. You could do worse. Both are right handed bats so you could platoon the Hobbit or Crawford. SS as an offensive position is a pipedream, unless you want to throw 5 years and 95MM at no-heart Jose Reyes. Or 4/48 at Jimmy Rollins and hope that the same EastBayMud water Ricky Henderson drank keeps J-Roll rolling... Hey, he's hitting well in the playoffs so far. High profile free agent signings are high risk propositions, and we aren't the Yankees able to shrug off busts. Look at the damage Zito and Rowand have done. Speedy gap hitting dudes look perfect on paper for PacBell, but they age terribly. Filling short is the hardest thing to do in MLB right now. So hope for Scutaro/Gonzalez as the lesser of 2 evils. The 2 big OF guys from last year Werth and Crawford are the poster children for running far away from the FA market for building a team. Sounds like they are giving up on Torres, which is a tough call. He came out of nowhere with a new batting approach and his medical diagnosis worked out and took the Gints to the promised land. Odds are stacked highly against him at 33 coming off a terrible season. I don't blame the Giants for downplaying him, but he still has significant value at a 4th OF for his defense and baserunning. We'll see how far these statements go very soon. It will be a mistake to give up on him, but they just might. The million dollar question has to do with Belt. Is this more mumbo jumbo or are they serious? If he is going to AAA to start the season there will be another FA OF signing - more middle market danger. Go back and look at their statements at the start of the season. Night and day different from this season ending conference. So bad Rookie for making them look stupid and not being the next Posey immediately. And please go read the Giants Way handbook of hacking like this Pill guy who is ready for the show. We can't have 2 patient hitters in the same lineup, we're getting Posey back next year. (That being said Belt does need to work on protecting the plate and can't depend on getting close calls as a rook) I'll try to keep an open mind, but Sabean does not have a good track record with fill in the roster positions on the open market. He is at his best finding steals like Grissom, Uribe and Vogelsong. If he goes that route, we'll be very lucky.

@Shank, High profile FA signings are NOT high risk propositions, mid range talent being paid franchise-player money is a high risk proposition. Zito was in decline when the Giants (Sabean) made him the highest paid pitcher in MLB. Rowand wasn't worth a long term contract, but got one anyway, based on his play during a contract year. Miguel Tejada was a bad signing from the jump. Who could have possibly thought that an aging Tejada making the move back to SS would be a bad idea? Oh that's right...everyone. EVERYONE knew that Tejada was doomed for failure. He was Renteria before Renteria was Renteria. Sabean does the same thing every year, he gets in the mix with the wrong players (and places huge "value" on veteran leadership, ie, paying a player for what they've done instead of what they will do in the future), gets burned by the contracts and then gets gun-shy and picks next years crop of FA's from a slightly less talented pool. Sabean needs to stop over-thinking it. Put away the Excel spreadsheets and sign someone who is a big deal to a long term contract. But, that's where the problem is. Sabean's idea of a "high profile" FA is someone like Jason Bay or Jayson Werth. Guys who are coming off 1-2 year superstar stretches looking for a big contract and the Giants get burned everytime. The problem isn't signing a superstar to a big money contract, it's defining what a superstar is, first, then paying them what they're worth. There's a huge difference between signing someone like Jason Bay to a multi-year deal and signing Prince Fielder to a multi-year deal...one of those guys is a superstar and one of those guys was temporarily in the spotlight.

@DougLV, Completely agreed with all your points. Except one. Brian Sabean with an Excel spreadsheet?

Shortstop: I think the Giants are looking for a SS who will be the anti-Tejada, in every way. That means somebody who: 1) Provides, at the very least, average defense 2) Has a penchant for getting on base, potentially filling the leadoff role (if Torres or other CF acquisition can't hack it). 3) Can be a RH platoon mate for Brandon Crawford, if he elevates his hitting game I think the person that fits best is Marco Scutaro (assuming his option is not picked up). Prediction: 1 year/ $4.5 million. ===== Center Field: I think the Giants will wait it out rather than jumping to sign Coco Crisp or DeJesus right away, and by that time, it may become evident that Cody Ross is not getting the multi-year deal he wants (while Beltran did). I think they'll resign the fan favorite to maintain outfield depth, as he can hold down CF if Torres does not get his mojo back, or take over LF if Belt earns himself the starring 1B job. Prediction: 2 years / $9 million ===== The lineup would then be: Scutaro -SS Sanchez -2B Sandoval -3B Posey -C Huff - 1B Ross - CF Belt - LF Schierholtz -RF I'd be content with the potential of that offense, assuming everyone stays healthy and normalizes a bit toward their career numbers.

The most infuriating and troubling comment Sabean made in his end of season presser was the one about coming to the realization that they've been rushing players through the system. While I think that was a fairly transparent dig at Belt (way to support your kids!) it could have a very big impact on the player who, in my opinion, is the guy who could make the biggest difference for the Giants in 2012: Gary Brown. When you take a step back and look at all the free agents available most of them have significant warts, whether injury history or age or decline or cost or long term commitment. Of the players who are reasonable targets for the Giants (ie not Reyes, Fielder, or Pujols) Brown offers the best combination of things the Giants really need at a price they can absolutely afford. I'm not suggesting that they give Brown CF after 1 albeit great year of A+ but he should absolutely be given an opportunity to not only make the team but win the job. If the Giants want to keep the core of this team together for the long run they're going to need some cheap talent to supplement the pitchers and players who will become pricey in the not too distant future and Brown (and Belt and hopefully Panik) need to provide that next wave of cheap talent. The Giants proved this year that they can hang in the race in the NL West for 3-4 months without scoring a ton of runs because of how they pitch, which provides the perfect window to commit to playing Brown (and Belt and possibly Hector Sanchez) for the first half of the season to see what they have in those players. If it's not working by the time we get to July there are always trades to be made for the type of band aid veterans Sabean and Bochy seem to love, the same types of guys who they would be most likely to sign in the winter. Of course, I put the odds of that happening at somewhere around 9 bajillion to 1 because VETERANZ AND GAMERZ AND PRESENCE AND TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS. Having said all that, this free agent class should be interesting and there may be some deals out there if the Giants are patient and realize they are likely to be bidding against only themselves. The Yankees lineup is set, and the Red Sox issues were not offense as much as pitching. The Phillies likely made their big offseason acquisition when they traded for Hunter Pence. The Mets are looking to shed salary not add it (particularly if they bite the bullet and re-sign Reyes), and unless there's a new owner of the Dodgers in the next 2 months the Bums won't be signing any free agents either. With all of the big money teams mostly sitting things out this winter the Giants have a lot more leverage than they've had in recent memory if they recognize that in most cases they will likely be bidding against themselves. Of course they either didn't realize or didn't care when it came to Huff's deal last year, but I digress... The point is the players who might end up helping the Giants the most may already be in the system and if they are willing to commit to playing them at least through the first half of next year they would be in a very good negotiating position this winter to possibly add some depth to the offense without having to break the bank or commit any money long term. After all, they could do a lot worse than starting an OF of Belt-Brown-Schierholtz with Crawford at SS and Huff platooning with Pill until one of them wins the 1B job outright. And that's my 2 cents about the offense and the lineup and free agency as I prepare to watch Rollins, Crisp, and Cuddyer get old over the next couple of years while Lincecum and/or Cain walk for nothing.

Trade Jonathon Sanchez and Brett Pill for Erik Aybar. FA's Cuddyer, and Coco. SS Aybar 2B Freddy 3B Pablo C Posey LF Cuddyer RF Schierholtz 1B Huff CF Coco Crisp

This is what I'd love this offseason: To not hate it. I hated their post-World Series winter. I hated everything about it. The complacency. The complete and utter lack of effort to improve upon a team that was good but flawed. If I don't hate everything they do from now until next March, that'd be an improvement.

What I want to see... 1. Rollins or Reyes 2. Sanchez 3. Posey 4. Fielder 5. Beltran 6. Sandoval 7. Scherholtz 8. Torres 9. Timmy What I probably will be... 1. Rollins or Reyes (Biggest issue that they WILL address) 2. Sanchez 3. Sandoval 4. Posey 5. Huff 6. Belt 7. Scherholtz 8. Torres 9. Timmy If the Giants really wanted to put the fear into other teams, they would go with lineup 1, but more then likely they'll do something A LOT closer to lineup 2 because the will refuse to spend the money, and all of us Giants fans may be in for another long season...

If not Beltran, than Rollins. So you've got it.

Resign Beltran and see if Torres can get back on track otherwise they should call up Brown midseason CF: Torres/ Brown 2nd half 2B: Sanchez LF: Beltran 3B: Pablo C: Posey 1B: Huff/Belt RF: Shierholtz SS: Crawford P: Starter Beltran/Pablo/Posey as 3/4/5 hitters is just as good as any team in the NL

That's the ticket right there!

Re-sign Beltran and sign Rollins SS-Rollins 2B-Sanchez 3B-Sandoval C-Posey RF-Beltran LF-Schierholtz 1B-Belt CF-Torres That's a good offense right there. Not like the Yanks, Rangers or Red Sox, but definitely better than what we've had over the last 7 seasons.

Sign Cuddyer, Beltran, and Gonzalez. Batting order should look like this; CF: Torres 2B: Sanchez 3B: Sandoval RF: Beltran LF: Cuddyer C. Posey 1B: Huff SS: Gonzalez P: Lincecum

Reyes is the perfect fit (solves leadoff and shortstop), but is way too expensive and the Giants should not lock up someone for over 100+ million who will have injury problems. Keep Beltran, pick up Crisp and A Gonzalez, hold onto Shierholtz and Ross as 4th and 5th outfielders. Fonty is a great backup and can play multiple positions. It's worth seeing if J. Sanchez can rebound as the fifth starter because Zito is putrid and Surkamp isn't ready. Crisp (CF)/backup Ross Sanchez (2b)/backup Fonty Beltran (RF)/backup Shierholtz Sandoval (3b)/back up Fonty Posey (C)/back up Stewart Belt (LF)/back up Ross and Shierholtz Huff/Pill platoon (1B) Alex Gonzalez (SS)/backup Fonty LIncecum/Cain/Bumgarner/Vogelsong/J. Sanchez This lineup would be at least league average if not better and not break the bank.

As others have indicated, a very discouraging article, especially since Chris is pretty much right. The Giants do not need to spend money on an inspiring free agent since the fans will come to their "baseball event" no matter how mediocre the baseball team itself is. In other words, in the "business" of baseball, the Giant management is tops while the team itself is mediocre. Does anyone really think that Matt Caine and Tim Linceum will stay once they are allowed free agency? I don't think so; nor should they. And to think that the Giant team once included Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, Bobby Bonds, Jim Davenport and Jim Ray Hart. Oh for the days of yesteryear when the Giants were truly Giants.

If they wanted to trade some pitching, the Yankees' Eduardo Nunez is a utility IF but has played a lot of SS and 3B this year in with Jeter and Arod out. He's struggled some with errors (well, a lot), but he hits well and has a good arm. It'd be an interesting trade...but I guess it's pretty unlikely. I would hate to see the Giants pay big money for Rollins. The wrong side of 30.

That's a really depressing article. The problem with buying expensive band-aids every year... is that you have to buy expensive band-aids every year. This team needs to stop overpaying for 3-4 mediocre players and drop all that money on a single player that can lock down a position for many years. I'd much rather see Prince Fielder at first and a collection of young guys at SS/OF than fill every spot with guys we ALREADY KNOW STINK for nearly the same price.

Here's what the Giants lineup SHOULD look like next season: 1. SS Jimmy Rollins 2. 2B Freddy Sanchez 3. C Buster Posey 4. 3B Pablo Sandoval 5. LF Michael Cuddyer 6. 1B Brandon Belt 7. RF Nate Schierholtz 8. CF Gary Brown 9. P Tim Lincecum Unfortunately, here's what it WILL look like next season: 1. CF Andres Torres 2. 2B Jeff Keppinger 3. 3B Pablo Sandoval 4. C Buster Posey 5. 1B Aubrey Huff 6. LF Cody Ross 7. RF Coco Crisp 8. SS Rafeal Furcal 9. P Barry Zito C'mon Sabean make it happen, open the wallets to get some good sticks in SF!

Wow... I soooooo hope you're wrong. I feel Gonzalez and Crisp are actually a downgrade from next year's Crawford and Torres - which is really hard to do. Paying $10 million to downgrade, this does sound like the Giants though. I guess a .314 OB% = a leadoff hitter according to Sabean. Man, after looking at their stats more closely, Crisp is horrible - and Sea Bass might be worse. PLEASE BE WRONG. Having said all this, I think your prediction is spot on. Another prediction: If these are their big moves, Giants finish below .500.

I agree with everything you said, except the last part. The Giants have a pretty good shot at finishing over .500 and, with a little luck, contending for the division next year. The pitching staff returns pretty much intact, Posey returns, Sanchez returns (he's not great, but he's way better than what they ran out there this year), dead-cat bounce from Huff and Torres, better production then Tejada/Cabrerra no matter who they put at SS. Sandoval won't hit like a madman again, but he'll be good and hopefully healthy. The division is weak, too. Every team has flaws, and Arizona is bound to come down; they got very lucky this year.

I agree with you too... but remember, odds are that our staff isn't gonna repeat what they did this year - I mean, we can't expect them to do this again, can we? There's bound to be an injury or something. Think about it... nobody had an off year on that staff. Imagine if one of them misses a month and somebody else (most likely Vogey) has a 3.98 ERA, then we're screwed - cause our depth is horrible and/or a Houston Astro/New York Met. After seeing the free agent list, I'm almost at the point where I think we should say, screw it, don't tie up more money on crappy vets, just lock up the pitchers and wait to make a big free agent push when the Rowand, Huff and Zito contracts are off the books - then sign Matt Kemp and win the west 5 years in a row.

Crisp's career OBP is .330; his number was down this year mainly because his BA was about 20 points below his career avg. I think he's still a lot safer bet than Torres, who looked this year like a one-year wonder (last year). If they can get Crisp for no more than $6 per for 1 or 2 years, if would be a decent deal. I doubt Gonzalez would be a downgrade over Crawford for 1 year, but you sure wouldn't want a longer deal than that, and if they upgrade the offense enough (and spend the money to do it) in other places they could afford to start Crawford for his glove.

I'm really not convinced that Gonzalez would be any kind of improvement over Crawford. He has a career 77 wRC+, including 75 this year. His only flash of competence with the bat recently cam as part of an unexplained team-wide offensive explosion in Toronto, which disappeared once he was traded. I hope it doesn't happen. In fact, the entire free agent market is horribly uninspiring. The best move the team can make...maybe Dejesus to take an outfield spot and Coco Crisp to play center (Hey, it's inevitable. He steals bases and has no power: "The Perfect Leadoff Man!") Well, maybe there will be some interesting non-tenders.

I think I agree with you Levi. However, the Giants letting Crawford start the season as the primary shortstop is out of the ordinary for the team. And plus, I think Crawford needs a caddy of some sort. Furcal might fit depending on what the team thinks of him.

Speaking of interesting non-tenders, one came to mind: It is very possible that the Red Sox decline Marco Scutaro's option for next season. He projects as a Type-B free agent. I would like to see the Giants pursue him if that is the case. Perfect L/R match with Crawford, who could serve as a defensive replacement as well. Worse defender than Gonzalez, but I think to an acceptable degree, and a much better hitter.

That is an intriguing option. Especially since I would expect the Sox to make a run at Reyes.

There's so much flux going on in that organization right now that anythings possible of course, but I've seen a lot of people suggest this lately and I think it's more of a longshot than an inevitability. Scutari had a fantastic second half and was one of the very very few brigh lights on that team in September, when h was starting regularly. Given that it's only $4.5 mil to keep him (as opposed to $1.5 to give him away) it looks like a no-brainer to keep him around as MI depth if nothing else (particular given Lowrie's complete inability to stay healthy).

Because of his fantastic glove, I am totally fine with giving Crawford a shot at SS next year. Fangraphs has him at 0.5 WAR because of his defense even with his half-season of bad offense. Beyond that, just like Brandon Belt, I think Crawford's batting eye (>10% BB-rate) means he deserves another shot. He came around with the bat in the last month of the season (>.750 OPS) which usually has meaning for rookies (look at the year Peter Bourjos had after choking initially).

Michael Cuddyer (or Jason Kubel) is the FA signing I fear the most. Well, other than Yuniesky. Ugh.

Raul Ibanez will be a Giant. Guaranteed.

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