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LeviDavis
LeviDavis

"I’ve seen zero aggressiveness from him at the plate this year." I'm sorry, what does this mean?

Chris Martinez
Chris Martinez

He's not protecting the strike zone like he should. He's not proving that he's waiting for his pitch. All I see from him is standing up there and watching pitches go by and not pulling the trigger on pitches. It's like watching paint dry with him at the plate.

Roger
Roger

I still say (strictly from a statistical pov) that Adrianza's had a solid year with the bat given that he started the season off having thumb surgery. Yes, he's repeating seasons (but I think with a player of Adrianza's profile that's bound to happen at some point, probably more than once) but he still boasts one of the more solid walk rates in the system and his power has been up a tick this year (he's matched last year's XBH in about 200 fewer PA). It's not a breakthrough, and expectations can still be set on Extremely Modest, but given a strong defensive profile at the premium defensive position (and given the dearth of SS options around the game) it's not a season that I find unencouraging.

Chris Martinez
Chris Martinez

I'm giving Adrianza a break on the hitting/power numbers because of the thumb surgery. I know how bad that can mess up a hitter's stroke. What I'm referring to is his presence in each of his at-bats. When I see guys like Joseph, Brown, Parker, et. al. hit, I see hitters who are ready to challenge pitchers and able to protect the zone. I don't see that in Adrianza. I once talked to an old scout who said he wants to see the "killer instinct" in guys as hitters. That means hitters who can execute and bring the fate of an at-bat into their hands. I do not see that from Adrianza.

Roger
Roger

Are scouting reports from the DSL coming?

Chris Martinez
Chris Martinez

Hey, Roger, thanks for asking about the DSL. I think that league ends at the end of August and I land in the DR September 3. IIRC, the Dominican Winter League begins mid-October. I can't commit to reporting on that as I have a heavy academic load in the DR: two classes at university plus a research internship. I also have an online class at my home university in the States and I'm hell bent on getting straight A's. School comes first here. But if I do have time to get away, I will provide whatever knowledge I can find.

blandwilson
blandwilson

I haven't seen Joseph play and I'm not questioning your judgment, but since he was drafted, there has been near unanimity in the opinion that Joseph could struggle to develop into an MLB-quality catcher despite above-average arm strength. Almost everything I read suggests he might end up a 1B or DH. So, I'm curious about the claim that he has "good instincts...behind the plate" and the observation that his defense hasn't been poor. Do you think he has developed quickly or did he erroneously get tagged with a questionable D label that unfairly stuck? (The latter seems to happen a lot.) Do you still think he projects as an MLB catcher? Does the Susac draft suggests the Giants FO is less optimistic about Joseph than you are?

Chris Martinez
Chris Martinez

I think he got an unfair tag as a poor defender. He's much better than the negative reports would indicate. However, I don't know if he'd stick at catcher, because of Posey at the ML level, and others in the system that basically have nothing but catcher as a projection--Hector Sanchez comes to mind. If Joseph ended up being a first baseman with his hitting tools and the same overall smarts to play catcher, I'd be fine with that. As far as Susac, I can't say that drafting per position means anything for the current projection of guys. Would the Giants shy away from drafting pitching because of the current ML rotation? Hell no. The Giants showed us they believe they have a surplus by trading Wheeler. To build a surplus of talent at every position is the goal, IMO.

Roger
Roger

There seem to be alot of inconsistencies of opinion regarding Joseph's D. I've frequently heard commenters on blogs say Joseph had no defensive abilities, but he's been ranked the Best Defensive Catcher in BA's Tools issue now two years running in two different leagues. Those are compiled by a straightforward poll of managers and scouts in the league with no editorial filtering on the part of BA's staff so they're pretty straight from the horses' mouth stuff. That's the view of professionals who have first hand views so I take it as more authority than anything else I hear. Chris' remarks certainly fall in line with that view.

blandwilson
blandwilson

Cool...thanks. Played a little catcher growing up, so I'm always interested in how the catching prospects rate. Maybe Posey, Joseph, Susac (has he signed?), and Sanchez will all work out and force a pleasantly difficult decision for the Giants.

blandwilson
blandwilson

Good to know -- thanks. BTW, it's great to have someone specializing in prospect analysis. Keep up the much appreciated good work.

Chris Martinez
Chris Martinez

Hey Bland. Susac hasn't yet signed. The deadline is August 16 as far as I know. You can keep up with the 2011 signees on BA's Draft Database here: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2011xteam.... Sometimes it's about a day behind in updating, but it can show you who's signed and who hasn't. Hope that helps.

Johnny Disaster
Johnny Disaster

Adrianza did not make a slow play. He did not make a fast play. He made a half-fast play.