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obsessivegiantscompulsive
obsessivegiantscompulsive

Great article as usual! Nice analysis. Plus, it should be noted that sabermetrics has not caught up yet with valuing what a catcher delivers defensively, particularly handling a pitching staff. For example, in 2010, Posey had a 3.18 ERA with the pitching staff, while Molina had a 3.50 ERA and Whiteside had a 3.54 ERA. Whiteside was hurt by Wellemeyer, Affelfdt, Zito mostly and Medders. Molina by Wellemeyer in particular, plus many of same guys (though great with Zito). Posey did relatively better with all pitchers, though worse with Zito. I was asked to break this up, but don't know why, not that long...

obsessivegiantscompulsive
obsessivegiantscompulsive

By starters in 2010: Lincecum: Molina 3.23 ERA (15 games), Posey 3.76 (15), Whiteside 2.86 (4) Zito: Molina 2.71 (13 games), Posey 4.67 (15), Whiteside 6.75 (6) Cain: Molina 2.85 (15 games), Posey 3.29 (16), Whiteside 4.15 (2) Sanchez: Molina 8.31 (2 games), Posey 3.07 (13), Whiteside 2.88 (20) [historically, Molina has been horrible with Sanchez for some reason] Bumgarner: Posey 3.06 ERA (18) Wow, didn't see that one coming, the main starters did better with Molina, while Posey made his mark with Sanchez and MadBum. Molina would have been much worse, however, had he caught more Sanchez starts, the two of them have never clicked, looking at their history together. Anyway, I think Posey's WAR will look much better once catching defensive metrics catch up with others, resulting in even more separation.

oldjacket
oldjacket

It's pretty nice that a line that good can be considered disappointing.

Chris Quick
Chris Quick

Yeah. After watching Molina for so long, I still have to blink and rub my eyes when I see a catcher with an OBP of > .320