3 responses to “WAR Graphs”

  1. obsessivegiantscompulsive

    You missed a really good chance for good visual joke: with your title, it would have been great if you included both starting lineup and bench players, along with starting pitchers and relievers, and the graph above would have looked like a 60′s era Peace Symbol.

    Nice post. Thanks for the link to EditGrid. I disagree about pursuing fixing up the bullpen. Both Lincecum and Cain ended up losing the win in at least 10 games, and that doesn’t count the other starters. Tom Tippett showed in his analysis that having a top bullpen has become a key to making the playoffs, and the bullpen needed fixing, and more importantly, could be fixed relatively easily, whereas there was not enough out on the market to fix up the offense. That, to me, is the point of rebuilding, tackling another facet of the team, fixing it, and moving onto the next.

  2. MrLomez

    Another wrinkle to this little theory:

    I think the main thing we learn here is that in terms of the Bullpen the law of diminishing returns kicks in rather quickly.

    Ideally, given that the Giants’ payroll is $80mil, according to Tango’s theory, they’d allocate $8mil to the BP. Anything over that is throwing $$ in the toilet. The fact is, there are only so many innings a BP throw. Aside from 2 or 3 main guys you simply run out of opportunities to use them.

    (And good for Sabes, as of right now the Giants have spent almost exactly $8 mil on their ’09 BP).

    On that point we’re in agreement.

    But…I think your last paragraph is overstated,

    I would argue that spending anything less than that 10% threshold is equally stupid.

    Spending on a bullpen is as important as spending on any other position *up to the point* that an additional bullpen arm will not be optimally used. In other words, if a team hasn’t spent enough money on its bullpen to account for all of the innings a bullpen will ultimately pitch, then it’s as detrimental as not spending enough on SP’s or hitters. Does that make sense?

    If the Giants had $6 mil going to the BP, and $2 mil to spend, they would be just as well off spending it on the BP (perhaps more so) than they would spending that $2 mil elsewhere.

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