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Chris
Chris

@Dave I'm late in my reply, too! <cite>As for Errant Throwin’ Rowand I am really hoping he is hurt and has just not healed up. Say bruised ribs , nagging hammy etc. If that’s the case we could see a bounce in production next year from him. Longer term I will be surprised if he is not in Left Field.</cite> I hope he's hurt, too. But, he's getting older and nagging injuries could start turning into injuries that could drastically reduce his ability to play baseball ie: hit, run, FIELD. That's what's kinda scary to me. We signed a guy who's been historically tough on his body and we signed him for the potential tail end of his career. I'll give the Giants this, if any team can keep Rowand healthy, it's us. We've done very well in the past few years keeping older veterans healthy and our training staff -- even with the loss of Conte -- has always been ranked high.

daveinexile
daveinexile

Day late and dollar short again. By my limited understanding of RZR is it is a trying to quantity the “steadiness” of a glove work. Kind of a refinement from the old official scorers rule about it shouldn’t be an error if the average player would not make the play. There is some merit to trying to quantify that. The problem I see is C.F. , like S.S., is a position were you are expected to better then steady to be considered good. As for Errant Throwin’ Rowand I am really hoping he is hurt and has just not healed up. Say bruised ribs , nagging hammy etc. If that’s the case we could see a bounce in production next year from him. Longer term I will be surprised if he is not in Left Field.

baetown415
baetown415

Chris, can you explain how you convert Dewan's Plus/Minus to runs? I previously thought that each + and - represented one base, but I can see that's way off

Chris
Chris

@Delorean I just wanted to let you know that Errant Throwin' might be my favorite nickname for a Giant, ever. It's funny cuz it's true! Yeah, I can't say exactly why RZR is liking Rowand so much. I know Dan Fox of BP was working on a better defensive metric for the site before he was hired by the Pirates (maybe the Indians) and he had Rowand as average to very slightly above average. I know Grant hit on it at McC a few days ago, but it's really pretty amazing that the Giants went out and signed Dave Roberts and Aaron Rowand when they already had a pretty good CF candidate on their roster in Randy Winn. I don't get it.

delorean
delorean

Some random observations: I'll never look at RZR the same way again. I'm inclined to call it "absolute hogwash," in fact. +/- might not be 100% accurate, but it's got to be more reliable thatn RZR, at least in this case. No WAY is Errant Throwin' the 2nd best defensive CF in the NL. No. Way. I'd much, much rather see Randy in center. I hope Rowand finds his lost BAVG and power this offseason.

Chris
Chris

Also, maybe the funniest thing with the Rowand signing is that Randy Winn isn't a terrible defender in CF. He was a (+14) in '04, (+8) in '05 and (-2) in smaller inning sample sizes in '06 and '07. He shines in RF but he could have most certainly played CF instead of signing Rowand.

Chris
Chris

I'll start this one off. I can't remember a Giants CF who had a worse arm at hitting a cut-off man or throwing home than Aaron Rowand. He always over throws the cut-off man and every throw home seems to be waaaay up the 3rd base line.