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LawJonesJr
LawJonesJr

There is no question Omar Vizquel deserves praise for his leadership and achievements on and off the field of play. Omar is still a great defensive player but slowed down with the bat. We all have heard, at museum, baseball is a business. It is business about winning. Giants need to turn the page and play Ochoa and Burriss. Omar, at least publicly, said that he would accept a limited role. We need to see when the youth can do. He would be great on the coaching staff. This is reminiscent of the final years with Jack Thomas "J. T." Snow, Jr. A fan favorite, a great defensive player, dwindling offensive ability (final seasons), and a clubhouse leader. Giant still are tiring to fill this position. Is Bowker the answer? Perhaps, only time will tell. Are Ochoa and Burriss the next Omar? They have to play to find out.

Chris
Chris

@Delorean, We can always remember the good times. He was really awesome in '05 and '06. Especially '06 when he hit .295/.361/.389 and stole 24 bags out of 31 attempts. Seems so long ago. @Waxpack Plot synopsis <cite>Twin girls Jessica and Susie (Mary-Kate and Ashley) live with their father (Patrick Cassidy) in the city. One day, they receive a letter from their grandmother Natty (Peg Phillips) inviting them to a dude ranch. Natty, not knowing about their mother's death, wants their mother to come help her at the ranch. Natty is having financial problems because the ranch has too few paying visitors and, although she has offers, Natty does not want to sell the ranch. The girls and their father go to the ranch and attempt to help Natty. At the ranch the girls attempt to prevent a real estate developer from taking possession of the ranch. However, Natty's son Bart (Martin Mull) keeps getting in the way of their plans. They have adventures and learn about their family history through the diary of their deceased mother.</cite> Netflixing....now.

waxpack
waxpack

"A Collection of Terrible Ideas." Brilliant idea. I'd like to add this to the list. I too am mystified by Omar's continued appearance in the starting lineup.

delorean
delorean

*sigh* I know you're right, but this is like trying to extricate yourself from an abusive relationship. I'm going to my mother's. Please don't try and contact me.

Chris
Chris

I know, I share the same dilemma but it's frustrating. Omar is done as a player, defense included, and he shouldn't be started 3-4 times a week. I'm not saying we should fire him into the sun, let him play 1-2, maybe 3 times a week but give Burriss the bulk of the starting time. I've got serious doubts about Burriss but what is the point of playing Omar? Respect for a HoF-lite career? He's a nice guy? He dances? He'll make a terrific play -- while missing a few more than he would have years ago -- now and then? If you ranked SS's by OPS+ with 200 PA's or more in a season since 1956, Omar is having the 5th worst offensive season of all-time. He's sandwiched between Mendoza (OPS+ 25) and Angel Salazar (OPS+ 23). No amount of defense is going to help that. In a stupidly small sample, he's doing well by RZR, I don't have his +/- numbers. You can see the full list, here. It's hard to say goodbye, but the fact that the Giants keep playing Omar (and Castillo and Aurillia) is the same problem that got them into this mess. Evaluate the younger players more, this is the luxury you get when you're a .400 team. Take advantage of it. Do it. Call me skeptical, but I don't think that post-July 31st anything will change.

delorean
delorean

So torn about Vizquel. The guy is pretty much magic with the glove--his defense is one of the few bright spots in this godawful season. And he does seem to be hitting better (anecdotal, mind--but his avg is up from, what, .130ish?). Yes, Ochoa and Burriss should be getting more playing time, but I simply don't know how to reconcile my love for Omar with this team;s obvious need to turn the page. I'M SO CONFLICTED