10 responses to “Farm Review: Fresno Grizzlies”

  1. daveinexile

    Pink Flyod Reference for the win and a Hunt clip that would make Nuggant proud. Alex “ What are Rock Gawds of the 60’s & 70’s ? For $1000

    If I had to guess I’d be surprised we will see Bocock in any role other then call up filler or emergency band aid. The Giants did not have much going in Connecticut at SS ( almost 300 innings of field play for the 27 year old Wald and another 212 innings for Rosario who also 27) this season so far. Leads me to think the Organization currently views Bocock as “maxxed out”. I would think a ball yard like Dodd would be tailor made for Bocock to learn hitting in. It punishes fly ball/power type hitting and thus encourages contact & strike zone discipline. But then the Giants do a lot of things on the farm I don’t understand. And given my level of ignorance that befuddlement is not always a bad thing

  2. daveinexile

    Favorite Grizzly? Probably Nate. Though Ochoa intrigues me. I’ve not seen much of his play but I have to wonder if he would not be considered part of Blue Light Special bin for “ he might not embarrass us too much at second” next year.

  3. delorean

    With the benefit of this morning’s minor lines, I’m taking MATT DOWNS as my favorite Grizzlebee!

  4. delorean

    281-330-8004, holla at me!

  5. obsessivegiantscompulsive

    The key to understanding Nate’s minor league stats is to observe his in-season performance, which means you can’t just look at the back of his baseball card and opine on his abilities and future.

    Since joining San Jose, he has had a pattern, a definite pattern, of spending about 100-200 AB in his new league figuring out how the pitchers in that league work. While doing that, his BA is high as usual, but he’s hitting for very little power. It is almost like he is working strictly on learning how to hit at that new level against the new level of pitching/competition.

    Once these lessons are absorbed, then he starts hitting for greater power afterward. Much greater power. For a sign of his power potential, see his performance in Augusta in 2004 and this season, his repeat season, in 2008. The dude knows to hit.

    And as DrB often likes to say about Nate, why take a walk when you can hit the ball so well?

    Also, you forget that he has been among the youngest hitters in each league he has been in, so that will affect his performance negatively as well, on a per season basis.

    I think a better comparision would be the RF for Atlanta, Jeff Francoeur: low BB, higher SO, decent BA, 20-30 HR, good arm in RF, high assists. However, Nate has made great progress on his K-rate in 2007-2008, so I’m hoping that translate into a good BA when he makes the majors.

    I think the Giants have handled Nate right, except for maybe not keeping him at 3B for another season to see if he could play there for sure or not, and he has shown that he deserves to play up here with his play this season, showing that the surge last season’s end was not a fluke, as you need to see about a year’s worth of good performance to be sure if his good play is real or just a lucky half a season.

    I assume Sabean is working on trading Winn right now but unfortunately it takes two to tango, and you don’t want to just trade Winn, just to trade him, he should return a good prospect in trade.

    Gino Espinelli hasn’t gotten much prospect love coming up the system but for some reason I like him and have been rooting for him. He has done well everywhere he has gone, so I hope he gets a chance at some point. But Hinshaw leapfrogged him so now it would take either a trade or injury for Gino to get a chance with us.

    Sorry, the reason McClain is doing well in AAA is because he is much more experienced than anyone there. If you want an example, look at what Brian Dallimore did in the minors then in the majors when giving some chances.

    I like Misch. He is fine as a #5 and I think he can pitch like a #3 if given an extended chance, there is something about starting in the majors that spooks him, he might have to pitch in relief first but now there is no space…

    About Castillo, I don’t see what is so wrong with Bochy’s statement. Castillo is only 27 years old and his regular position is 2B; they only put him at 3B because we had no one else. Meanwhile, he put up awesome numbers in May, hitting .293/.343/.511/.854 with 3 HR, 7 doubles, and 2 triples, roughly a 18 HR, 42 doubles, and 12 triples full season at 2B.

    I find that intriguing too given that Durham is gone after this season, who knows if Frandsen can come back from his injury and then if he can really hit in the majors (I think he can but he still haven’t done it yet), Velez, as you aptly noted, doesn’t look like a future starting anything, maybe Denker works, but most teams are not in the habit of throwing away in a rental trade a prospect who is a future starter, and while Downs has done nicely, he also didn’t have the talent coming up that prospect analysts drool over as a starter. And Castillo is only 27, Frandsen will be 27 himself next season, and so will Velez, only Denker is young at 23 next season and, again, there is the talent issue.

    Going with current Grizzlies, Schierholtz and Ishikawa would be my co-favorites. Until last season, they had been lock-stepped in rising through the system.

  6. El

    Misch…was super unlucky, giving up 10 HR’s in just 47 innings pitched.

    It’s been bad luck that I’ve been one of the people involved in all my failed relationships.

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