Comments on: Positive Thinking On A Monday http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/ A blog for San Francisco Giants fans Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:35:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Bay City Ball | A San Francisco Giants Blog » Blog Archive » Bowkermania http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-3302 Bay City Ball | A San Francisco Giants Blog » Blog Archive » Bowkermania Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:50:46 +0000 http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-3302 [...] totally surprising. Last year he had a nice season in AA and during the dog days of July, I wrote a brief post on some minor league players that were giving me hope for the future. Bowker made the list. 6. OF John Bowker - A 3rd round pick [...] [...] totally surprising. Last year he had a nice season in AA and during the dog days of July, I wrote a brief post on some minor league players that were giving me hope for the future. Bowker made the list. 6. OF John Bowker - A 3rd round pick [...]

]]> By: Chris http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-1191 Chris Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:27:55 +0000 http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-1191 OGC, I like Copeland too, I guess I just ran out of space. I hope he gets promoted sometime this year. I love his OBP, almost as many BB's as K's, and the fact that he's got a little pop. Do you know if he's still playing CF? I've heard different opinions on his D in center, if he could stick there it would be fantastic. Wcw, I agree our farm system still is probably a mid, to lower tiered one but I see some improvement, gradual as it may be. If some of the lower level guys can keep developing and advancing the system is only going to look better. OGC,

I like Copeland too, I guess I just ran out of space. I hope he gets promoted sometime this year. I love his OBP, almost as many BB’s as K’s, and the fact that he’s got a little pop. Do you know if he’s still playing CF? I’ve heard different opinions on his D in center, if he could stick there it would be fantastic.

Wcw,

I agree our farm system still is probably a mid, to lower tiered one but I see some improvement, gradual as it may be. If some of the lower level guys can keep developing and advancing the system is only going to look better.

]]> By: wcw http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-1182 wcw Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:09:30 +0000 http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-1182 I dunno, even after this draft it's a weak system. To my mind, of what is left post-Lincecum: - Villalona. High ceiling, but a long way away. - Tanner. Could be Andrew Miller Junior in a few years. Could flame out. - Sosa and Noonan. Both flawed, both young, both interesting. - Pichardo if he keeps up his Cal-league stats. The rest, to my mind, are interesting, but no more. Bumgarner and Alderson and Fairley, maybe soon. Check back in a year. I dunno, even after this draft it’s a weak system.

To my mind, of what is left post-Lincecum:

- Villalona. High ceiling, but a long way away.
- Tanner. Could be Andrew Miller Junior in a few years. Could flame out.
- Sosa and Noonan. Both flawed, both young, both interesting.
- Pichardo if he keeps up his Cal-league stats.

The rest, to my mind, are interesting, but no more.

Bumgarner and Alderson and Fairley, maybe soon. Check back in a year.

]]> By: obsessivegiantscompulsive http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-1173 obsessivegiantscompulsive Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:20:51 +0000 http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-1173 Forgot to mention that the comparison with Utley was qualified: "Utley with less homers". The report on the MiLB noted "10-15" HR power eventually, so I am guessing that his swing reminds some people of Utley, maybe because both are lefties (I've seen someone mention Will Clark in comparison, in terms of swing). Forgot to mention that the comparison with Utley was qualified: “Utley with less homers”. The report on the MiLB noted “10-15″ HR power eventually, so I am guessing that his swing reminds some people of Utley, maybe because both are lefties (I’ve seen someone mention Will Clark in comparison, in terms of swing).

]]> By: obsessivegiantscompulsive http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-1169 obsessivegiantscompulsive Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:03:10 +0000 http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-1169 I think that another reason he's waiting is because not a lot of guys around him has signed and thus he is probably pushing to get the money Lincecum got last year, $2M, and not the money slotted for #10 this year, which should be around $1.6-1.8M, as most picks this year are getting exactly 10% less in bonus than year (Lincecum got $200K more than what would have been expected for his pick, based on the guys around him at the time of the signing). Right now Casey Weathers, #8 signed for $1.8M and Beau Mills, #13, signed for $1.575M, so Bumgarner looks to get around $1.7M based on extrapolating those two points. In addition, there is speculation that teams are dealing announcing deals that are above slot, Selig had an edict that reduced bonuses 10% this year. I like your list of players, good rundown. I would add that Bowker's prospect flame had died already by the time the season started, but it is now aflame once again and brightly burning. Williams, the catcher we drafted, is hitting pretty well except for batting average but his BABIP is very low and he has a high amount of walks to strikeouts, so I think his low BA is an aberration. He also has a number of homers already in Salem-Keizer, and we got him mainly for his defense and ability to call games. About Villalona, nice points made about his performance thus far. For comparison, we signed Jeremiah Luster, who was suppose to be a pretty good high school SS around the mid-teen round and signed him for a bonus close to the mid-6 figure range, but his stats in the Arizona rookie league were so bad that he didn't play many games there and didn't get to play in any of the higher leagues. I guess now that he's 20-21 years old, they decided it's time and moved him up, if I recall right, to Salem-Keizer, and I think he's doing pretty badly there as well, again. Two names I would mention is Ben Copeland and Pedro Sandoval of San Jose. Copeland is having a nice year in San Jose, great OBP for a leadoff hitter type plus he has some power as well. Sandoval's star faded after last season but he's having a nice season this year with San Jose, showing off the power he was projected for but not hitting for previously. I think that another reason he’s waiting is because not a lot of guys around him has signed and thus he is probably pushing to get the money Lincecum got last year, $2M, and not the money slotted for #10 this year, which should be around $1.6-1.8M, as most picks this year are getting exactly 10% less in bonus than year (Lincecum got $200K more than what would have been expected for his pick, based on the guys around him at the time of the signing). Right now Casey Weathers, #8 signed for $1.8M and Beau Mills, #13, signed for $1.575M, so Bumgarner looks to get around $1.7M based on extrapolating those two points.

In addition, there is speculation that teams are dealing announcing deals that are above slot, Selig had an edict that reduced bonuses 10% this year.

I like your list of players, good rundown. I would add that Bowker’s prospect flame had died already by the time the season started, but it is now aflame once again and brightly burning. Williams, the catcher we drafted, is hitting pretty well except for batting average but his BABIP is very low and he has a high amount of walks to strikeouts, so I think his low BA is an aberration. He also has a number of homers already in Salem-Keizer, and we got him mainly for his defense and ability to call games.

About Villalona, nice points made about his performance thus far. For comparison, we signed Jeremiah Luster, who was suppose to be a pretty good high school SS around the mid-teen round and signed him for a bonus close to the mid-6 figure range, but his stats in the Arizona rookie league were so bad that he didn’t play many games there and didn’t get to play in any of the higher leagues. I guess now that he’s 20-21 years old, they decided it’s time and moved him up, if I recall right, to Salem-Keizer, and I think he’s doing pretty badly there as well, again.

Two names I would mention is Ben Copeland and Pedro Sandoval of San Jose. Copeland is having a nice year in San Jose, great OBP for a leadoff hitter type plus he has some power as well. Sandoval’s star faded after last season but he’s having a nice season this year with San Jose, showing off the power he was projected for but not hitting for previously.

]]> By: Chris http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-1157 Chris Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:08:49 +0000 http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-1157 Thanks for the heads up John, I hope we get him inked because I like the idea of a lefty with mid-90s heat. Thanks for the heads up John, I hope we get him inked because I like the idea of a lefty with mid-90s heat.

]]> By: JMSetzler http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-1156 JMSetzler Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:02:38 +0000 http://www.baycityball.com/2007/07/23/positive-thinking-on-a-monday/#comment-1156 Keep your eyes peeled for Bumgarner to sign sometime in early August. I think he's waiting for his 18th birthday to arrive. He's local to me so I catch a lot of buzz about him. Keep your eyes peeled for Bumgarner to sign sometime in early August. I think he’s waiting for his 18th birthday to arrive. He’s local to me so I catch a lot of buzz about him.

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